- If you are a couple in a van,
- or a single person with pets who insist on sharing the bed with you,
- or even just a single person who likes a big bed.
I don’t recommend folding beds for these reasons:
- Dealing with the mattress and bedding is cumbersome and still takes up a lot of room
- It’s too complicated and time consuming. Everything about vandwelling takes longer throughout the day so at the end of a long day you probably just want to get in bed and go to sleep, you don’t want to face another engineering problem just to go to bed. Sleeping is so important it needs to be really simple, both before and after.
- You need some storage space under the bed. If it folds away to give you more room, then you lose that space for storage and in the tiny space of a van, you need all you can get.
The best solution I’ve found that solves all the problems is a pull out bed like my friend Andrew has in his van. He uses a futon mattress to fold up during the day to become a couch and pulls out very easily at night to become a large bed. It solves all the problems, 1) it’s simple enough it doesn’t take long to set-up or take-down, 2) the futon mattress is made to fold so it’s easy, 3) you still get storage space under the bed, and yet more room inside the van. Get a highly rated Futon Mattress from Amazon here: DHP–8-Inch Premium Futon Mattress, Full Size
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Because every make, year and model of van has different dimensions, I can’t give you exact numbers or detailed instructions about how you should build the bed. The best I can give you here is the concept and once you have that you’ll need to adapt it to work in your van. If you have some carpentry experience, once you have the concept it’ll be easy to actually build it.
I’m aware that some of you don’t have the carpentry skills, tools or time to build this bed on your own. If you are in that situation, I’d give serious thought to hiring a handyman to build it for you. Print out this post, including it’s photos and show them to him. This is fairly basic carpentry so any decent handyman should be able to instantly visualize what you want and be able to build it into your van.
This is one of those times when a picture is worth a thousand words, so it’s mainly going to be pictures, but let me give some instructions to help you visualize and build the bed:
To help visualize it look down at your two hands near each other with your palms up and your fingers spread apart, then slide the fingers of the two hands together–that’s basically exactly what the bed is going to look like. Your going to build the bed in two parts and they are going to slide into each other. The two parts are NOT connected to each other at all–the second merely rests on the first and slides in and out.
Basically you’re going to build two beds, but one part of the bed will have 6 legs and it will not move and the other part will only have three legs and it will move. The side of the bed with only three legs will rest on the other half of the bed that has six legs and will share the center support legs with the first half.
It’s like almost any other bed except you build it with slats instead of plywood and leave a wide gap between the slats. Lets say you use 1 x 3’s for slats. On the immovable part of the bed you would put the first slat at one end (being very sure it’s square) and screw it down. Then you would put another slat down and put something very thin in with it, like a yard stick standing on end. You don’t screw this slat down, it’s just leaving room for the “finger” from the other half of the bed to slide in and out. The reason you’re leaving the gap from the side of the yard-stick is so it’s not too tight and slides in and out easier.
So far you have one slat that IS screwed down, then a yard stick on end and a second slat that is NOT screwed down. Now you place a third slat and screw it down. Next, you pull up both the yardstick and loose second slat and place them both beside the third slat as the fourth slat. You do NOT screw it down, instead, you place the fifth slat down and screw it in. Only the ODD numbered slats get screwed down, the even numbered slats are empty space. The even numbered slats will be screwed down to the independent third leg and slide in and out of the empty space. Hopefully you’re getting the idea, every other slat is screwed down and becomes permanent. The empty spaces will be filled with slats from the “fingers” from the other “hand”and they will slide in and out.
To build the second part of the bed, take the third set of legs you built and place them flush beside the finished first part. Now start taking the remaining slats and laying them into place in-between the slats on the finished part and screw them ONLY into the third set of legs. At no time will the two beds be attached to each other. These slats should be 3 1/2 inches longer than the first because they need to be wider to go over the third 2 x 4.
You could just use a tape measure and pre-mark the spots where the slats go but that introduces a lot more possibility of poor workmanship–a small problem in the beginning becomes magnified into a big problem by the end. Because most of us aren’t experienced carpenters, that is a distinct possibility. Doing it the way I described, as long as the first slat is screwed on square, and the slats themselves are straight, this should be fairly fool-proof.
Hopefully this allows you to get the concept, once you have that you can adapt it to your van, the size of your mattress and your needs. The bed I’ve described here is the simplest, least elegant method of construction but it will make you a wonderful sliding bed. You can use it as a beginning place and use different sizes of lumber or even different materials altogether, depending on your skill level.
At the bottom of the post I’m also going to show you photos from my friend Nicole from the http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/ of a slider bed that she and her husband built. It’s a completely different type of construction using fine carpentry techniques from cabinet making. Few of us have those levels of carpentry skills so I’m just showing it to you so you can adopt it to framing techniques if you like it. If I wanted to do it, I’d basically build two complete beds out of 2x4s along the sides of the van and then add the slider between the two of them. Mine will be much heavier than what they built, but much simpler and require very little carpentry knowledge or skill. It won’t be pretty either, while their’s looks like a beautifully crafted piece of fine furniture.
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I have a video of making a much simpler and cheaper bed, see it here:
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